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Domain Squatters Are The Scum Of The Earth

I wanted to register quirk.uk, but arsehole domain squatters are getting in the way and making that almost impossible.

WARNING – this post contains swearing as I’m pissed off.

I have to confess, I love a good domain name and the shorter the better. For example, I own kevquirk.com but prefer kevq.uk for this website as it’s nice and short.

Owning your own domain name is very important and while kevq.uk is a good domain name, I want something that only uses my surname. So I can have kev@quirk.[tld] as an email address. This is then also good for other members of my family.

I already own quirk.cc and a number of other domains, but I’m not thrilled with the .cc TLD. So I went looking for something better…

Domain squatters are scum

I found that quirk.uk had already been registered, but was available for purchase. A .uk domain name costs around £8 ($10) per year to register. So I made an offer that I thought was more than fair – £100 (~$135).

Around 20 minutes later I get an email back to say my offer has been rejected. I went back and asked what they would accept and the domain squatters came back with a counter offer of £750 (~$1000).

Seven hundred and fifty pounds!

That doesn’t include VAT either, which is 20% here in the UK. Since then, the domain landing page had been updated with a slightly discounted price of £659 (~$880). Oh how kind!

quirk.uk for sale webpage

Are you for real?

If it isn’t obvious from this site, my name is Kev Quirk. It’s my personal name, and I wanted to use that domain for personal email hosting. That’s why I wanted the .uk and not the .co.uk domain. I’m not a company, so I have no way to financially gain from purchasing this domain.

Seriously, if you’re one of these domain squatters who makes their living this way, FUCK YOU!

I’d like to say an extra special, giant, FUCK YOU to NVA Online Advertising B.V. who have the audacity to rip off consumers like me all over the world. Fuckers.

I really wish there was a way for people like me, just Joe or Jane Bloggs off the street, to fight back against these wankers. If I can prove my name contains Quirk and I have no financial incentive, should that give me some rights to own the domain? I think so.

If it was being used legitimately, I’d have absolutely not problem with someone else owning the domain. But domain squatters are in it purely for profit and they really are the scum of the earth as far as I’m concerned.

Conclusion

I’m stuck with quirk.cc. It’s not the end of the world, and I realise this is very much a first world problem. But still, it’s shitty that all these fuckers are free to get away with this stuff.

If you know a way in which I can fight back to try and own this domain, more for a moral victory than anything else, please do get in touch.

Until then, I’ll climb back under my rock…

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  1. You’re totally missing the point. First off, why is doing something “for profit” necessarily wrong in the first place? Are you mad at the real estate developer who bought vacant land and is now leasing parking lots or selling acres to home builders? The answer is likely no and you likely aren’t even thinking twice about it. So why are you making a big deal out of someone buying domain names, which are unique digital assets, and reselling them? The best part for you here is that it’s actually being listed for a reasonably affordable price since it’s in the 3 figure price range. Now it’s your issue alone if you only planned on using that domain for person rather than commercial use. Either way doesn’t merit the angry blasphemous blog post you published. Domain squatting involves the purposeful purchase of a trademarked or celebrity SLD domain and attempting to actively sell it to the person or party directly involved. Look up the actual definition. Buying and reselling domains with general appeal is a totally legal business model (sorry you don’t like it). If you really like that domain, I would open my wallet and make a better offer/buy it. Otherwise you’re either broke or dead cheap.

    1. Your analogy is ridiculous and utterly flawed. No, I’m not mad at property developers, because they buy land, develop it, and sell the properties at market value. They do not try to sell a £250k house for millions of pounds. Attempting to sell a £10 domain name for £750 is extortionate.

      Secondly, this is my website and I’m entitled to publish any “angry blasphemous blog post” I like. Don’t like it? Go write your own blog post.

      …or not, I don’t really care. 😊

  2. @kev They really are the scum of the earth, have a look at a site like afternic and it shows you how bonkers they all are. Names like “QIDANO” and “asia-66” being asked for 11k upwards. There is one domain I really wanted, has zero visitors, so I offered 20€ and the guy asked me for 15k.It costs them more to register this shit than get a sale, all while clogging up the internet, and creating new TLDs (don’t get me started on “premium domains”) to fix the squatted mess

  3. @kevMost annoying.This can happen when a search is made in a search engine! Happened to me several times. I write out the full address to see if its in use or if there’s a website at the other end. Less likely to be snapped up before you can get your cc out of the wallet.Worth checking when the domain expires and purchase before its renewed. Timing is critical. Managed it once out of several tries!

  4. @jarek91 @kev Yes, that’s of course a bit of a flaw in the plan. Fighting squatters by rewarding them might not be the most solid idea. But – As no one has found a way of ending domain squatting we could at least make Kev happy.Instead of having both Kev and Squatters being unhappy, we now have Kev and Squatters being happy.The first is a bit like: “Cutting off the nose to spite the face” or what do you think?

  5. I feel your anger.

    But consider also the privacy implications of a domain based on a personal name.
    I set one up a few years ago – and I did succeed in getting a good one based on my name – and then proceeded to setup email for myself and my young daughter, only to realise that if she used it my daughter would be revealing an important piece of identifying information (her name) if she actually used her new email address.
    We both felt very uncomfortable about her using her real name as an email address (eq jane@doe.id.au) and I eventually abandoned the domain. I felt a bit uncomfortable about it too – even as a more ‘mature’ bloke than I’d like to be.
    Obviously there are valid contexts for personal name based domains, but I think that there may be some privacy value in more anonymous email addresses.

    1. I disagree. Yes, your name is identifiable, but it’s also public information – as it’s impossible to keep your name private. Even using services like Gmail, we try to get an email that includes our name. frw34tg435rgvf432v32@domain.com is useless for humans to send mail to, so instead, we use our names.

  6. @kev you’re running a good community with 2.5 thousand active peopleTake any club with that many people, like football fans. When they enter the pub an equivalent amount of money as for your domain will be spent within 30 seconds, and it won’t stop at one round.But the fans get something of direct value for the money and they don’t mind that the bartender get paid from that and that the pub pay the rentTherefore a freemium type of membership could work on Mastodon instances.

  7. @kev You could ask people on Fosstodon to donate? But why should they pay for your personal domain??Or: You could help me spread the word of Albin Social to reach the crowd funding goal (3300 €/month)If the goal is reached I can then buy the domain for you as long as it still cost something below 1000 poundsThe challenge could snowball into your own family domainPeople get membership, two climate friendly well administered and well moderated instances: Mastodon.green and Pixelfed.green

  8. Same thing happened to me a while back while I was trying to get .com for my surname 🙂

    “Company”, or bunch of scammers if you wish, are called Uniregistry and I’ll quote: “Our price for this domain is $35,000.00 USD”

    But what can you do, except set up periodic reminder once the domain name expires and see if it’s available or if it’s renewed…

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