The Insidious Linux “Community” on Reddit

I'm Kev and I'm a Cyber Security professional from the UK. I started this blog so that I could share my thoughts on the things that interest me. That's usually technology, Linux, open source, and motorbikes.

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  1. You obviously were not around when Linux was young or seen the old *nix flame wars. What you hipsters call trolls now we called wimps.

    You would have been shattered as glass dropped from the Empire State Building. Shave the beard, you have earned it and you do not deserve it.

    1. LOL, so many assumptions in one comment, I think that’s a new record! You have obviously missed the entire point of this article. What these people were saying had no effect on me whatsoever, they’re just words. If I can handle Iraq and Afghanistan, I’m sure I can handle a couple keyboard warriors.

      My point was that although it didn’t bother me, if it’s someone’s first exposure to Linux, it could drive them away.

    1. You’re absolutely right, I have no idea why I put “extraditing”. Duly edited, thanks for picking this up.

  2. Or just don’t give a crap at all. For example, I like retrostuff and I usually collect some (I have a msx and a zx-spectrum). The MSX community is toxic like.. 100x more toxic than linux communities, so I’ve decided continuing my life and enjoying my retro-hobby without giving a single fuck to the community. I think some linux communities can be threat like that too, or blocking the cancer inside the community (since most moderators are children that “hurr Im troll, lets see the fight, hurrdurr”).

    1. I odn’t give a crap and I certainly haven’t lost any sleep over it. I just think it’s important to call people out on their bullshit. I think people should be held to account for the things they say and do.

  3. Your post illustrates exactly why it is so important to be present; Why rule by mob can’t be allowed to be the only value held (because due to malignant societal influences, learned helplessness etc. etc. soon that will become rule by tyranny). While I’m a regular on /r/linux, I am not a member of any community (that’s one of the things I love most about the GPL, you don’t have to be :)), but if you’ll note I’m not afraid of speaking my truth to that community even if it is offensive to the majority. We need more people who are not afraid. I commend you for thinking of others in writing this piece and I do hope you come to speak your truths on /r/linux in future too. Yes, right now there is a price to pay for doing so, but it’s worth it 🙂

    1. Thanks for your comment. I’m actually not a regular on Reddit at all. My post was shared by someone else within /r/linux. Whilst I wasn’t a regular before, this experience has made me less so of a regular to be honest, which is a shame but I have no inclination to have that kind of negativity in my life – there’s more important things to life. 🙂

      1. Well, y’know that’s your choice.

        Me, personally, as a female working in the criminal justice field I’m dealing with BS like the kind you find on /r/linux anyhow from some of my coworkers. I don’t get to walk away from BS (even when it’s dealt with, I shouldn’t have to waste my free time with paperwork when I’d rather be screwing around in python).
        Seeing as I have to endure in real life, I figure I might as well deal with just a little bit more BS for something I believe in. Y’know, today (in real life) is better than yesterday and yesterday is better than the day before because my mothers generation decided the workforce (all work, not just some) should be welcoming to all people. I do too. Same (especially as many peoples first introduction to GNU/Linux in depth is through reddit) I’ve decided GNU/Linux should be welcoming to all people. There are, admittedly the minority now, others on /r/linux who also believe in a better tomorrow for all users.

  4. Thanks for writing this follow-up. Although I’m not sure how much of an effect it will have on the negative members of our community, it is often just left completely unacknowledged in the aftermath.

    1. I’m almost certain that will it have absolutely no effect whatsoever. But I still think it’s important to acknowledge that the wider community think this behaviour is unacceptable.

    1. Yeah, maybe you’re right. Although I have seen similar belittlement (not anywhere near to the same degree though) on other sites, such as distribution forums etc.

  5. This attitude, while not the only reason, did help me in getting away from the Linux community after 2 decades of being a part of it. I don’t miss it.

    1. I think the community as a whole is a very positive thing, it’s just these sub-communites that tend to ruin it for me. I suppose the best thing to do is to ignore it and move on.

    2. I don’t think the “community” cares at all.
      If an “attitude” from some computer program users makes you stop using the same computer program as them, you have some serious mental issues.
      Grow some thick skin, and let people express themselves, even if it doesn’t appeal to you, it shouldn’t matter.
      The “community” surely doesn’t miss you. Nobody cares.
      Freedom is absolute, or it doesn’t exist.

      1. I feel sad, that you can’t leave positive feedback. Or at least not be an asshole

        “I don’t think the “community cares at all.”

        Check reddit please, seems like a lot of them does

        “If an “attitude” from some computer program users makes you stop using the same computer program as them, you have some serious mental issues.”

        It doesn’t make him stop using anything, he is just calling people out on their bullshit

        “Grow some thick skin, and let people express themselves, even if it doesn’t appeal to you, it shouldn’t matter.”

        When people are negative like you and belittle people it not only should matter, because it drives away potential new users, but also because it leads some of the people that are already users away from linux

        “The “community” surely doesn’t miss you. Nobody cares.
        Freedom is absolute, or it doesn’t exist”

        Sure freedom is absolute, but it doesn’t mean you should be an asshole to people. You’ll either respond to me saying “Insert bad argument here”

        Or you’ll ignore it because you don’t care about other peoples opinions

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